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The Quirinius Problem

Hi folks - I'm spending some time today working on Saturday's Bible study, and I thought you might appreciate a little appetizer. This is an excerpt from my book: Reading the Church Fathers (2022), in a section on why it's so important to study the early Church in order to understand the New Testament. Enjoy...

The Quirinius Problem
[From Reading the Church Fathers: A History of the Early Church and the Development of Doctrine, by James L. Papandrea (2022), pp. 199-201.]

Almost all English language Bibles translate Luke 2:2 using the word “first,” in a phrase such as, “this was the first census taken when Quirinius was governor of Syria.” The problem with this translation is that Quirinius did not become governor (technically proconsular legate) of Syria until the year AD 6, when Judea became a Roman province (as opposed to a client kingdom) and was annexed to the province of Syria. There certainly would have been a census taken at this time, to assess not only population, but to estimate potential taxes. This is the census mentioned by Luke in Acts 5:37. In fact, it seems that the militaristic faction known as the Zealots was born out of the protest against this very census.

However, Luke has just told us in chapter 1 that John the Baptizer and Jesus were born, “in the days of Herod, King of Judea” (Luke 1:5). But Herod died in 4 BC. So how can Jesus be born both “in the days of Herod” (before 4 BC) and at the time of the “first” census under Quirinius (after AD 6)? It’s impossible. Sadly, most New Testament scholars are content to assume that 1) Luke didn’t know what he was talking about, and 2) the inspiration of Scripture (to the extent that they believe in it) does not include dates. Other scholars, refusing to give up on the inspiration of Scripture, have tried to suggest that perhaps Quirinius was governor of Syria twice, both during the time of Herod’s reign, and later. But we know from Roman records that he was not. When Herod was still alive and King over Judea, Quirinius was proconsul in Galatia. In any case, this kind of speculation is not necessary.

As it turns out, Luke did know what he was talking about. Assuming that it is true that Jesus was born while Herod was still alive (Matthew also says as much), we can see that the census of AD 6 under Quirinius cannot be the one mentioned in Luke 2. So why does Luke bother to mention Quirinius? It turns out that the Greek word prote in Luke 2:2 can mean either “first” or “before.” Translators — without consulting the historical context — usually choose the most common meaning, “first,” and end up with the phrase as it’s usually translated. However, in this case, it should be translated “before,” so that the verse should be translated, “this census was before Quirinius was governing Syria.” Luke’s point would then be to distinguish the census that was taken around the time of Jesus’ birth from the more famous one that caused an uprising in AD 6. In other words, Luke is saying that Joseph and Mary had to travel to Bethlehem because of a census, but he’s clarifying, as if to say: “Do you remember that big census we had when Quirinius became governor of Syria? Well, it’s not that one — it was before that.”

At the time of Jesus’ birth — when Herod was still alive and King of Judea — the proconsul of Syria was one Sentius Saturninus, who held the office from 9 to 5 BC. Tertullian knew this, and mentions a census conducted by Saturninus on behalf of the emperor in the year 6 BC (Against Marcion 4.19). Although the logistics of a census requiring the kind of travel that we read was forced on Joseph and Mary is unclear, whatever compelled them to go to Bethlehem could not have been the census ordered by Quirinius but must have been a census taken at least ten years earlier. And although there are no extant Roman records of the specific census in question, we know that such enrollments were ordered at that time. All this is to say that if New Testament translators would check their history, they would know how to translate Luke 2:2 correctly. And they would know that Luke did know what he was talking about, and his witness can be trusted with regard to dates.

Post Script - Vindication! N.T. Wright, in his new translation of the New Testament, called the Kingdom New Testament, translates Luke 2:2 like this: "This was the first census, before the one when Quirinius was governor of Syria." It's not a perfect translation because you can see he's trying to have his cake and eat it too, with both the words "first" and "before" in there - and there are other issues I have with his translation, mostly that it's too colloquial and too much of a paraphrase, sacrificing precision for folksy language, but at least you can see he knows I'm right about this!

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The_New_Testament_in_Chronological_Order.pdf
AND here is the PDF with the chronology of Paul's life

I made this during my PhD program, so about 30 years ago, but I think it holds up - still, please let me know if you see anything you want to nuance or question. I have Paul being executed in 64 or 65, but my latest research suggests that 67 or even early 68 might be more accurate. Also, to the question of whether Paul was martyred before Peter or after him, the evidence suggests Peter was martyred first, but Peter's comments about Paul's letters being Scripture feels to me like Paul was already dead when Peter wrote that. Legends that they were martyred together were created to overcome an apocryphal story that they had had a falling out, but that's not really true.

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In the meantime, I encourage you to continue your study of the gospels. You don't really need my translations of the text - we've explored which translations are better than most, and with the discovery of the Ignatius Study Bible (the NRSV-2CE) that ticks all the boxes of my test verses, you're good to go. If in doubt, use that one.

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